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Comment on Open Letter to Taekwondo Canada’s CEO and Board of Directors‏ by amateur hour at its finest

amateur hour at its finest — Sun, 19 May 2013 12:43:24 +0000

@Good day, no one ever said they had no wisdom, some are exceptional with their wisdom. But I have to agree with Devon on what he just said. We must be careful of what/whom is waiting in the shadows, as could be more of the same or god forbid even worse. Sometimes the people with the most “wisdom” are the ones that can do the most damage. If some people have a long future in taekwondo in canada, I can assure you numbers will go down even more and can TC afford that?

Comment on Open Letter to Taekwondo Canada’s CEO and Board of Directors‏ by Good Day

Good Day — Sun, 19 May 2013 10:12:06 +0000

I can’t agree with you. I’ve experienced their wisdom. I hope they have a long future in Canada!

Comment on Open Letter to Taekwondo Canada’s CEO and Board of Directors‏ by Devon

Devon — Sat, 18 May 2013 22:59:06 +0000

Or TC Board are puppets of provincial board members, or some are puppets of those behind the drapes as in TL of Ottawa who has very, very, long arms. Don’t be fooled there are the next generation of corruption waiting patiently in the wings to take over, circling like vultures. Such as a couple “sport” TKD coaches.

Comment on Open Letter to Taekwondo Canada’s CEO and Board of Directors‏ by Taekwondo Encore!

Taekwondo Encore! — Sat, 18 May 2013 14:12:21 +0000

Sport Canada does not deal with internal disputes. Members can file a complaint v. TC with SDRCC to compel the organization to abide by its own bylaws.

As far as the votes, SK went to court but the case was too complex to deal with without a full trial and that is expensive.

Members should pressure their provincial organizations that in turn should pressure TC to act according to the Bylaws on all matters not only when it suits the Board. However, many of the provincial organizations are led by puppets of the current TC’s Board.

Comment on Open Letter to Taekwondo Canada’s CEO and Board of Directors‏ by H.R.

H.R. — Sat, 18 May 2013 13:59:03 +0000

No, not resign, but Corporations Canada regulate Non Profits to behave appropriately don’t they? Does the Minister of Sport know TC are jigging with the bylaws and votes ?

Comment on Open Letter to Taekwondo Canada’s CEO and Board of Directors‏ by Taekwondo Encore!

Taekwondo Encore! — Sat, 18 May 2013 12:37:42 +0000

TC won’t respond or address the Open Letter on the account that we are not willing to be identified. We say it is just an excuse to shirk their responsibility.

Actually, we didn’t expect a different reaction from them as we are sure that those issues were already brought to their attentions before. In our opinion, the unaddressed Letter just states publicly the Board/CEO’s incompetence and lack of responsibility.

Do you really expect them to voluntarily resign?

Comment on Open Letter to Taekwondo Canada’s CEO and Board of Directors‏ by H.R.

H.R. — Sat, 18 May 2013 12:30:03 +0000

Now it makes sense why TC are reluctant to respond. The mess will just get worse.
Time to focus on the athletes. What if TC dismantle this Board and attempt to start over instead of trying to explain 2,3, 4 and 5? There must be something that can be done that will make everyone happy?

Comment on Open Letter to Taekwondo Canada’s CEO and Board of Directors‏ by Taekwondo Encore!

Taekwondo Encore! — Sat, 18 May 2013 08:30:24 +0000

Too close!

Comment on Open Letter to Taekwondo Canada’s CEO and Board of Directors‏ by H.R.

H.R. — Sat, 18 May 2013 08:26:50 +0000

When I read points 2, 3, 4 and 5 of the letter to TC, it seems to me, from an outsider, things were done, not exactly ethically, to stack votes, of like minds, to get something approved that the Taekwondo Community are split on. Am I close?

Comment on Taekwondo Canada Corner by amateur hour at its finest

amateur hour at its finest — Thu, 16 May 2013 22:29:44 +0000

Exactly @anonymous is spot on, the funding is not a gift, it should be provided to them. They do not half to bow down and kiss butt to get it. It is their $$ technically, as is not the $$ destined for the advancement of the sport, not the advancement of the staff?? YES, when will they make an announcement that they will fund the athletes for worlds. If they don’t fund, wear the damn dobuks of the provinces/companies that fund the team thats its thats all! SHAME once again TC

Comment on Taekwondo Canada Corner by amateur hour at its finest

amateur hour at its finest — Thu, 16 May 2013 22:26:34 +0000

YUP, notice how other countries have coaches from other countries etc at higher level competitions etc.

Comment on Taekwondo Canada Corner by Taekwondo Encore!

Taekwondo Encore! — Thu, 16 May 2013 21:52:12 +0000

Any one who half listened in an NCCP course should know periodization, micro, and macro cycles.

Some in TC are talking about 2020 Olympics, we see it as a convenient way to avoid being held accountable and to sidestep the more urgent issue of Rio 2016. Also, a National Coach position is not a job one keeps until retirement age, every Olympic cycle it should be open for grab and not only to Canadian residents/nationals, that’s the only way to bring in new ideas and methods.

Comment on Taekwondo Canada Corner by amateur hour at its finest

amateur hour at its finest — Thu, 16 May 2013 21:29:22 +0000

a 4 year plan is not really something that you spell out. It is periodization, here is a brief wikipedia definition, they are speaking of a season obviously, but Olympic periodization is a 4 year plan taking in the full 4 years. Before I give it, here is a quote from one of our Olympians here in canada Bruny Surin and I quote “there were mornings when I did not want to train and I looked at the poster on the wall of the athlete I wanted to beat and I said if I don’t run this am, someone somewhere in the world is going to run and is going to beat me and win the Olympics, so I got up out of my bed and ran”

“Periodization is the systematic planning of athletic or physical training.[1] It involves progressive cycling of various aspects of a training program during a specific period. It is a way of alternating training to its peak during season. The aim of periodization is to introduce new movements as one progresses through the macro cycle to specify one’s training right up until the start of the season”
Periodization is not all fluff and blah blah, its a proven scientific method that works, the body has to be bring peak at certain times etc all in preparation for the end goal, the Olympics, simple enough its not rocket science, but here in canada we would think it is as most stray away from it. It does demand alot from the coach to do this, perhaps some are not interested, that I do not know.
Unfortunately, you can count on one hand the coaches that use this in canada, hence who has produced results. You have to know exactly what you are doing or you will royally screw up the athlete. Tudor Bompa is known as the father of periodization. Many, many countries use this and you will not see the plan up on their website, it is in the coaches papers etc. @looking Good, if you new anything about Olympic planning, or had brought any athletes to that level or had been an athlete at that level, these things would be a part of your daily vocabulary. TC has to find a way to get this info out to most of the people who know nothing of it. But first they have to acknowledge that yes it does exist and educate themselves or bring in a person who has used it and produced, didn’t happen this time around did it!. Ask any coach who has brought an athlete to medal at the Olympics and he will tell you. Obviously coaches will not “spill” their secrets to others, will give “off” plans when asked for it, as it is theirs, they paid to learn this stuff with their time and $$. I don’t understand the mentality we have of thinking, spar, spar and spar some more and boom, your on the podium at the Olympics. ITS NOT WORKING PEOPLE, time to figure out what is wrong. And thats the problem here in canada, everyone thinks they know everything, including TC. When you produce an Olympic medal, come on this board and tell us how you did it! I have nothing against people who want to be 1st in their province, people who want to be top in their country, people who want to win pan ams, so on and so forth, that is ok as everyone has different aspirations and goals, but for those who are aiming for the Olympics and want to be on the top step of the podium, lets please put all the chances on their side and stop fooling ourselves and mostly, the athletes. Hence why it is already too late for an Olympic medal here in canada, as we have wasted 1 year of a 4 year cycle’ you cannot make up that year at all!

Comment on Taekwondo Canada Corner by Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 16 May 2013 21:00:43 +0000

@ Looking Good: You make it sound like it would be a “favor” that TC would be providing by funding the athletes. It is their responsibility and duty to provide the funding and support for the athletes. Otherwise, TC should cease to exist.

TC!!!! GIVE ATHLETES THE FUNDING THAT THEY ARE ENTITLED TO AND ANNOUNCE IT ON THE TC WEBSITE TO INFORM THE TKD COMMUNITY!

Comment on Taekwondo Canada Corner by Looking Good

Looking Good — Thu, 16 May 2013 20:15:03 +0000

I am wondering what content AHAIF@ is expecting in a 4 year plan. I am not TC in the house. I read through another country’s TKD plan for the Olympics . The plan for the other country is pretty generic and wordy. All Fluff. Nothing Critical.
Canada has outstanding coaches. Many have a plan.
TC make me happy when they financially assist Canada’s elite squad with funding.

Comment on Open Letter to Taekwondo Canada’s CEO and Board of Directors‏ by amateur hour at its finest

amateur hour at its finest — Thu, 16 May 2013 19:33:48 +0000

well we see that TC is true to itself, as they have done over and over and over in the past by not answering when people ask questions (or answering “mind you own business”), they have chosen to not address the open letter it seems. Are we surprised, no, not at all. Would have been surprised had they answered though. TC might want to start using some reverse psychology and see if that helps their sinking ship.

Comment on Taekwondo Canada Corner by amateur hour at its finest

amateur hour at its finest — Thu, 16 May 2013 19:30:37 +0000

@anonymous too, hilarious, but sadly true! As anonymous said, snowboarding is a timed sport, once you arrive, thats it, done. Tkd is not a timed sport (well there is timing involved obviously), but it can be compared to a great chess match between 2 opponents, strategy is a must, but speed is also there. Its a combination of many things and above and beyond all, practice and competing with the best will bring you to a higher level. This is where TC lacks, our athletes will never ever measure up to the best if we don’t “take them out of their respective schools/dojangs and get them traveling. And by traveling I don’t mean at their own expense as then they have to work etc to pay for this. We will never measure any where close to certain countries as long as we have this attitude in Canada where now they are landed, “prove to us what you can do and then we shall see if we want to invest in you” (which we never know they could also say we won’t)/can’t) How can you ask a high level athlete to fork out oodles of $ time after time just to try and make the team and then expect them to perform at major competitions such as worlds. They are tired and fed up. Other countries have sent their teams all over to get ready for this, all expenses paid and we don’t measure up $$ in comparison to borderline 3rd world countries. I have an idea, get rid of the excess baggage that is doing everything and anything but taekwondo related and we will suddenly have cash for the team! This is taekwondo we are talking about, its the athletes we should focus on, this is not the “apprentice, amateur version”, where we need to look after the “executives”, when did this become about the board and the “hires”, when and who made the decision to put the $$ on them and stop paying for the athletes?

Comment on Open Letter to Taekwondo Canada’s CEO and Board of Directors‏ by Taekwondo Encore!

Taekwondo Encore! — Thu, 16 May 2013 18:08:57 +0000

Just before the letter itself, there is an update with a link and some text in red.

Comment on Open Letter to Taekwondo Canada’s CEO and Board of Directors‏ by Just Wanna Fight

Just Wanna Fight — Thu, 16 May 2013 18:00:39 +0000

I must be missing something. Some people are talking about the reply from TC. Is this posted somewhere that I do not see?

Comment on Taekwondo Canada Corner by Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 16 May 2013 17:59:03 +0000

Absolutely Agree!!!

Comment on Taekwondo Canada Corner by Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 16 May 2013 17:40:59 +0000

To me the problem with the “HP Leader” is taekwondo is quite different from other individual sports. I actually think it’s more akin to a team sport. An individual sport like skiing, snowboarding or swimming you are competing against a clock for best times. In swimming or skiing you have times to beat to qualify for the national team. I think this is where the “best results” mentality comes from. In team sports the quality of your opponent directly impacts results. You cannot use the same procedures – It’s ridiculous. Our athletes are competing against a calculator. There are better ways to ensure international experience and quality than what has been done this year. It’s been a complete waste of time and money.

Comment on Taekwondo Canada Corner by Anonymous Too

Anonymous Too — Thu, 16 May 2013 17:39:36 +0000

TC and snowboarding have something in common. Both can go downhill fast.

Comment on Taekwondo Canada Corner by Taekwondo Encore!

Taekwondo Encore! — Thu, 16 May 2013 17:39:01 +0000

Indeed we forgot that one. :)

Comment on Taekwondo Canada Corner by Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 16 May 2013 17:22:39 +0000

You forgot about Karate!!! snowboard + soccer + karate +????

Comment on Taekwondo Canada Corner by amateur hour at its finest

amateur hour at its finest — Thu, 16 May 2013 16:27:13 +0000

@TE haha, rather funny :) I’m sure if we look further might find another sport or something in there anything but taekwondo :) Perhaps we can take a snowboarding plan, mix it up with some soccer and come up with a 4 year (my bad 3 year plan) to get our athletes ready for RIO!

Comment on Taekwondo Canada Corner by amateur hour at its finest

amateur hour at its finest — Thu, 16 May 2013 16:25:18 +0000

I agree with @simon, “anonymous” JF is not running the HP, the person doing it is someone else whom we all know. When did this ever become about JF?? I also don’t understand what you are saying, as makes no sense? I haven’t seen any whining here, have you? Perhaps TC in the house again, trying to get something started within quebec, who knows, as this is one of the first times I am left not understanding at all the message someone is trying to send? HP program, what HP program, we are not speaking of weekly trainings Ste Foy or Mtl here, we are speaking of a 4 year plan in preparation for the Olympics, which should have started 1 year ago. I’ll take it one step further, should have been prepared a long time ago, and started 1 year ago, and nothing from TC on this absolutely nothing. So what is the “real” HP director that they contracted out to, up to with that? Where is the program. Sure some athletes in quebec might be following programs, designed by their coaches etc, independently from TC and TQ, the credit goes to their coaches/trainers, no more no less! And @anonymous, what is it exactly that you want us to ask and to whom do we address this question?

Comment on Taekwondo Canada Corner by Taekwondo Encore!

Taekwondo Encore! — Thu, 16 May 2013 15:33:39 +0000

snowboarding + soccer ≠ taekwondo

Comment on Taekwondo Canada Corner by Simon says

Simon says — Thu, 16 May 2013 14:01:54 +0000

I’m not sure what you are trying to say here, but

1- I’m not blaming JF, what he is doing in Quebec speaks for itself
2- The HP presentation in Toronto wasn’t done by JF
3- The committee not being listed on purpose is questionable, even if it is performing miracles
4- There is no HP program, because nothing is posted about it. If there was anything TC would be showing it off
5- There is no one to talk to in TKD Canada, so I do it here, you don’t like it too [...] bad

Comment on Taekwondo Canada Corner by Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 16 May 2013 13:19:31 +0000

your problem? why cannot ask the command of High Performance JF. oh maybe your busy whining to ask or see his effort he work very well.

Comment on Taekwondo Canada Corner by amateur hour at its finest

amateur hour at its finest — Thu, 16 May 2013 10:59:07 +0000

The 4 year plan that other countries are now 1 year into, hasn’t even happened here. At this present time we do not even know what selection process canada will use etc. Meanwhile our athletes will sadly, be going down in rankings after worlds. I believe, there will only be one athlete left in the top 10 in world and that is an athlete from quebec, as he is already ranked 1st in the world.TC is doing nothing, zero, as it is run by people who 1-don’t give a damn about athletes, 2- haven’t got a clue about taekwondo, 3- and have the “its my way or the highway attitude.. I agree with @Simon says, said if they presented a wish list, that unfortunately won’t do anything. RIO, is already too late, due to the inadequacies of the HP people, as 1 year lost on a 4 year plan in a sport such as taekwondo, you don’t come back from that. ANYBODY who doesn’t know that, knows nothing about Olympic planning, nothing! My take on all this, TC had/has no interest in any of the present senior athletes per say except perhaps 1 or 2 “chosen ones”, and one has just “messed it up for themselves”, so they will focus on the “younger” crew for 2020 (yes I have heard this from “someone”). The present top athletes, also come with the present “hard core” coaches who want nothing basically to do with these clowns, so what easier way to “clean house”…….Think about it, as it is food for though!